Tuesday, August 29, 2006

There would appear to be a landscape whenever the mind is transported from one sensible matter to another, but retains the sensorial organization appropriate to the first, or at least a memory of it. The earth seen from the moon for a terrestial. The countryside for the townsman: the city for the farmer. Estrangement [depaysment] would appear to be a precondition for landscape.
--Jean Francois Lyotard, Scapeland

14 comments:

D. Sky Onosson said...

I really like this idea, and I think it is true, at least for the most part. I have a great book called The Myth of Continents by Martin Lewis and Karen Wigen, and it's all about how our preconceived notions of the world lead is into seeing (and not seeing) in particular ways, not necessarily the 'reality' out there (whatever that is...)

Anonymous said...

Reading Lyotard eh?

Has the world dissolved for you yet?

Or had it already and that is why you decided to read Lyo-I-can't-help-to-think-that-I-don't-exist-tard?

:)

Lorne Roberts said...

LOL!

cara said...

I liked this idea for the same reasons that the book you suggest refers to Sky. Our preconceived notions lead us to see the world in specific ways. Lately, I've been reading and writing about how teachers experience that and contend with that as they attempt to teach about history and democracy. I'm amazed how at intimately connected to identity and specifically in my research "white" identity that can be.

But I like this quote for another reason, in that it highlights the challenges of dislocation or estrangement as Lyotard describes it. he seems to be referring to a hybridity in all of this but I'm not a philosophy student so I might have it wrong.

C-DOG
to answer your question smartypants I read the quote in an educational theory essay but I certainly want to read more Lyotard. So your pretentious word play was lost on me.

But perhaps you might dissolve your little world a bit.
NO?

Lorne Roberts said...

yeah-- dissolve your own world, man. yeesh. ha ha ha!


LOL!

you two are real funny. cara the stern funny mum, c-dog the truculent boy w/ a propeller cap and suspenders.

sky-- see you at yr times show. and play the label whenever. we have an opening on sept 7, and then i think early oct-- the 4th or so.

D. Sky Onosson said...

I think I'd like to do that Sept 7 show... but come say hi at Times, and we'll figure it out?

Anonymous said...

Did that guy invent the stretchy pants dancers wear?

Lorne Roberts said...

yes, onosson...

and so we meet at last.

dum dum dummmmmmmmmmmm...

Lorne Roberts said...

p.s. in relation to this quote:

margaret atwood wrote:

"whether the wilderness is real or not depends on who lives there."

TheBlueMask said...

"I`m sick of trees, take me to the city. Train comin` round the bend"- Lou`s Velvets.
Hey Sky, since when did Alfie play drums??

D. Sky Onosson said...

Alf's played drums for a while - he's been drumming for the Rowdymen for some time, and he's pretty good at it too!

J C said...

I found I was painting the prairie when i was estranged from it. hmmm.

Disolve.

D. Sky Onosson said...

Is it possible to miss somewhere you have never been? To be homesick for a home you never lived in?

cara said...

Yes and Yes.